Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/22/1994 03:00 PM House HES

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  HB 429 - SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICE AGENCY                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE, awaiting the arrival of Rep. Jeannette James,                   
  took a brief at ease at 4:06 and reconvened at 4:09.  He                     
  announced the calendar for the remainder of the week.                        
                                                                               
  Number 689                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. JEANNETTE JAMES, Prime Sponsor of HB 429, said, "I                      
  think this is probably the shortest bill in history."  She                   
  stated that HB 429 was intended to enhance the operation of                  
  the state's Special Education Service Agency (SESA).  She                    
  said the agency makes special education services accessible                  
  to children with severe or unusual disabilities who need                     
  specialized services not normally found in their district.                   
  She said SESA assures that qualified specialists are                         
  available to assist remote districts to increase their                       
  ability to deliver required services.  She asserted that the                 
  bill would repeal the requirement for the Governor's Council                 
  on Disabilities and Special Education to govern the                          
  organization.  She explained that the mission of the                         
  Governor's Council is to plan, evaluate, and promote                         
  services to people with disabilities.  It should not govern                  
  part of the service system that is designed to evaluate and                  
  critique.  She said SESA will create a consumer driven                       
  governing board.  The new board will consist of people from                  
  rural areas and representatives of organizations that use                    
  the agency services.  She said there is no cost to the                       
  program, and the Governor's Council on Disabilities and                      
  Special Education is an advocacy group not a services group.                 
  She said the Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special                  
  Education has been providing services.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 723                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE said, "This replaces an existing group, that's                   
  why it's a zero fiscal note... or the existing group had a                   
  zero fiscal note."                                                           
                                                                               
  REP. JAMES said that a board within the Governor's Council                   
  on Disabilities and Special Education will be made a                         
  separate board and stand alone.  She said that federal                       
  funding is already in place.                                                 
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE asked if it is 100% federal funding.                             
                                                                               
  REP. JAMES deferred the question to Commissioner Margaret                    
  Lowe.                                                                        
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER MARGARET LOWE, Department of Health and Social                  
  Services, stated that the board is state funded, under the                   
  same funds that provide foundation funding.  She said there                  
  is no fiscal note because only the oversight of the                          
  Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special Education is                  
  being taken away.  She said that there is no need for                        
  additional funding.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 754                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE reiterated that the legislation was changing the                 
  name of the program.                                                         
                                                                               
  REP. VEZEY asked what the relationship was between SESA and                  
  the Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special                           
  Education.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 800                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE explained that the state felt services                     
  need to be accessible to rural areas around the state to                     
  "low incidence impairments."  She said low incidence                         
  impairments relate to circumstances where perhaps there is a                 
  blind child in a rural community and the school district                     
  cannot afford to hire a teacher for the blind for that one                   
  child.  She said the Governor's Council on Disabilities and                  
  Special Education saw the need for a program to address                      
  those issues and that is how the board was formed.                           
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE said they have had a subcommittee of the                   
  Governor's Council on Disabilities and SESA has had                          
  oversight over the special education services with its own                   
  special board.  She further stated that the board has always                 
  been subject to the approval of the Governor's Council on                    
  Disabilities and Special Education.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 798                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. VEZEY said there would be redundant board review.                       
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE said there was not only redundancy, but                    
  also a main problem with the board is that presently the                     
  advocacy agency is also being the oversight.  She said it                    
  seems to indicate a conflict of interest.                                    
                                                                               
  REP. TOOHEY asked where the committee would go, or would it                  
  stand alone.                                                                 
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE said it would stand alone, and then other                  
  legislation would be proposed to give it its own statutory                   
  authority.                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. TOOHEY asked where the funds would be funnelled from.                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE said that it is fully funded by the                        
  Department of Education (DOE).                                               
                                                                               
  Number 837                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. KOTT questioned the zero fiscal note and felt there                     
  would still be costs to the transition that should be                        
  reflected in the fiscal note.                                                
                                                                               
  REP. TOOHEY said, if that were the case, the bill would not                  
  be supported.  She said it was a funding shift.                              
                                                                               
  Number 850                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. JAMES reiterated that there was no cost involved in the                 
  removal of the board from the Governor's Council on                          
  Disabilities and Special Education.                                          
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE clarified by saying, "This is a name change.                     
  There is still a cost to what this group does, but it is                     
  funded by the Department of Education."  He questioned if                    
  Rep. Kott was inquiring as to the how much it costs to fund                  
  that particular board.                                                       
                                                                               
  REP. KOTT said that was a fair assessment.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 881                                                                   
                                                                               
  SHEILA PETERSON, Special Assistant to Commissioner Covey,                    
  Department of Education, said that she could ask Duane                       
  Guiley, Director of the Division of Education Finance and                    
  Support Services for the Department of Education, exactly                    
  how much funding SESA receives.                                              
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE said it would answer a question that does not                    
  affect the bill one way or the other.  He then asked for                     
  further testimony.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 902                                                                   
                                                                               
  DAVID MALTMAN, Executive Director, Governor's Council on                     
  Disabilities and Special Education, testified via offnet.                    
  He said that HB 429 would repeal the requirement of the                      
  Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special Education to                  
  govern the State Special Education Service Agency.  He said                  
  the council had felt it was inappropriate to have an                         
  advocacy program also evaluating and critiquing service                      
  programs.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 916                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE asked what relationship Mr. Maltman was to the                   
  council.                                                                     
                                                                               
  MR. MALTMAN said he was the executive director.                              
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE asked for further questions.  There being none,                  
  Chair Bunde asked the pleasure of the committee.                             
                                                                               
  REP. VEZEY made a motion to pass HB 429 out of committee                     
  with individual recommendations with the attached fiscal                     
  note.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Hearing no objections, CHAIR BUNDE stated that HB 429 was so                 
  moved.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 935                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE brought HB 359 to the table.                                     

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